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Topic Title: ibm hs20
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Created On: 02/14/2007 09:27 AM
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 02/14/2007 09:27 AM
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jagermose
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hi will VI run on a IBM HS20 blade with EM64T Xeon CPUs? /Jan
 02/14/2007 09:31 AM
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cbarclay
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I'm sorry, we only support the HS21 blade. You can see our complete HCL online.
 02/14/2007 10:05 AM
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jagermose
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ok - are there any current plans on expanding the support for IBM hardware? if so - what models are you currently testing?
 02/14/2007 10:18 AM
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cbarclay
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Yes, we are currently expanding our IBM hardware support for both rack mounted servers and blades. We require Intel VT or AMD-V, which prevents us from supporting the HS20.
 02/14/2007 10:40 AM
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jagermose
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ok, sorry - I though a Xeon EM64T did support Intel VT :-( so I guess my LS20 does also only support 64bit but not AMD-V?
 02/14/2007 03:46 PM
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AMD-V first shows up on Rev F CPUs. AMD engineers have given us this advice to determine whether an AMD CPU has AMD-V:

The simple rule is "if it is a DDR2 and is not a Sempron, then it has AMD-V".
 02/14/2007 03:53 PM
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darmlin
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As with the Intel based blades IBM incremented the model numbers +1 for the newest blades that have processors with virtualization capabilities. The LS21 and LS41 have AMD V
 02/16/2007 04:33 PM
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jagermose
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ok - thanks... Im sorry to hear this as all we have are HS20 and HS21 blades :-(
 
if im not mistaken this leaves me with VMWare - expensive in licenses but I can use all my old hardware, my iSCSI and every new hardware I buy and it has all the great tools - but its expensive.
 
VirtualIron - I can actually almost buy new hardware for the price of the VMWare licenses. But only almost and I would still need the licenses for VI. No iSCSI (yet and no release plan, corrent?) but almost the same range of software tools - except for now I cannot use them as I only have iSCSI :-)
 
Xen... cheap, old hardware and new hardware, no iSCSI and no real tools... but for starters I could use the old hardware for linux and get new hardware for windows... but no tools... and then this thing about linux needing to be a special version of debian or redhat - or Im back to not having VT - and if I had I would go with VirtualIron ...
 
ok - so that really leaves me with microsoft virtual server 2007 - the tools, the hardware and the low prices...
 
*LOL*

Edited: 02/16/2007 at 04:35 PM by jagermose
 02/16/2007 04:37 PM
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iSCSI is coming at the end of February...
Think about the costs over time, too:
VMware -- you have maintenance each year. Virtual Iron is less than the cost of a year's maintenance.
Microsoft Virtual Server -- you can only run a few virtual machines per physical server, so you're not getting the consolidation ratios you would with Virtual Iron, hence you'll need more hardware.
As you mention, you can use Xen, but it doesn't support iSCSI, and on older hardware runs only unsupported Linux versions (modified kernels).
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